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Answer the questions re: "Mechanic's Logic" (7A WLTC 160-163). Post here. Some students responded as a group.
2. Peer Reviews for Argument 2, Round 2
Reflect on the process as a reader and as a writer. Post here.
3. The Tempest Tales--Lit. Circle. Indentify 10 arguments. State whether they are inductive or deductive.
4. Homework-- Finish The Tempest Tales. Skim again "Class Logic" (168-187)
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Liliulachelle Finley
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English 5
3 May 2012
Mechanic’s Logic: Exercise 7A
1. According to Pirsig, the most important part of the mechanic’s work is careful observation and precise thinking.
2. Pirsig defines induction as reasoning from particular experiences to general truth. He defines deduction as starting with general knowledge in order to predict a specific observation.
3. The scientific method relies on both inductive and deductive reasoning.
4. What Whitehead means in his quote is that no matter how you approach something, inductively or deductively, you’ll still get the same answer. You shouldn’t spend most of your time on what approach you are going to take.
Amber Robbins
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English 5
3 May 2012
Exercise 7A
1. The most important part of a mechanic’s work according to Pirsig is careful observation and precise thinking.
2. Pirsig defines inductive reasoning as reasoning from particular experiences to general truth. Deductive inferences work from general knowledge to a specific observation.
3. The scientific method relies on mixed inductive and deductive reasoning, weaving back and forth. The scientific method includes a statement of a problem, a hypothesis, an experiment, a prediction, observations, and finally a conclusion.
4. Alfred North Whitehead is trying to say that both methods should be used to work together, not fight one another. Both induction and deduction are forms of argument that should not counter each other.
Jerald Appling
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May 3, 2012
Exercise 7A, Freewrite
1. Use of the scientific method and experimentation are the most important part of the mechanic’s work.
2. Inductive inferences start with observations of the machine and arrive at general conclusions. Deductive inferences start with general knowledge and predict a specific observation.
3. The scientific method relies on deductive reasoning.
4. Whitehead is stating that induction and deduction have the same origin (much like the worm). That origin is the thought-process of using knowledge to reach a conclusion. Induction draws its knowledge from personal experience while Deduction draws from general knowledge.
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English 5
May 3, 2012
The most important part of a mechanic's work is careful observation and precise thinking. A mechanic must perform many careful experiments with hypotheses and conclusions in order to figure out the problem the motorcycle is experiencing. For this a mechanic should keep a very careful notebook with lab experiments and results. This is a process of deduction and induction. Pirsig defines inductive inferences as those that begin with observations and then arrive at general conclusions. Deductive reasoning starts with general knowledge and predicts a specific observation. Pirsig claims that his scientific method relies on the interweaving of both deduction and induction. The quote at the beginning of the chapter explains this well, comparing the two processes to either end of the same worm. In other words, induction and deduction are separate sides of the same process, and should be used in conjunction rather than in conflict.
Evelyn Rodriguez
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English 5
3 May 2012
Mechanics Logic
1. According to Pirsig, the most important part of the mechanics work is the careful observations and precise thinking.
2. Pirsig defines induction as starting with observations of the machine and then arriving to general conclusions. Deduction is defined as starting with general knowledge and then predicting a specific observation.
3. The scientific method of reasoning relies on the interweaving of both inductive and deductive inferences that weave back and forth between the observed machine and the mental hierchy of the machine found in the manuals.
4. The meaning that Alfred North Whitehead gives is that there is no point in arguing whether inductive or deductive arguments are better than the other. In conclusion, both inductive and deductive arguments could be relied on since both come to the same conclusion.
William Everett
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5/3/12
Exercise 7a
1. According to Pirsig the most import part of the mechanics work is careful observation and precise thinking.
2. He defines induction: reasoning from particular experiences to general truths. Deductive: they start with general knowledge and predict a specific observation.
3. The scientific method relies on interweaving both induction and deduction together.
4. What Alfred means by this statement is that both methods have you arrive at the same end so there is no need to argue which one is more effective.
Ana Cristina Muro
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English 5
3 May 2012
1. The most important part of mechanic’s work according to Pirsig is careful observations and precise thinking.
2. Pirsig defines induction as beginning with observations of the machine and arrive at the general conclusions. Deduction starts with general knowledge and predicts a specific observation.
3. The scientific method relies on the interweaving of inductive and deductive inferences that focus on the observed machine and mental hierarchy of the machine found in the manuals.
4. The meaning of Alfred North Whitehead is that there is no point in arguing whether inductive or deductive arguments are better than the other. At the end they both lead to the same conclusion.
Aaron VIllanueva
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English 5 COA
May 3, 2012
1. According to pirsig, the most important part of the mechanic’s work is precise thinking and careful observation.
2. Pirsig defines induction as the general truth based on personal experiences and deductive is defined as general knowledge to predict observations.
3. The scientific method relies on the inductive and deductive reasoning.
4. I believe that Alfred North Whitehead is saying that the oppositions of inductive and deductive creates this loop. When you approach an explanation using inductive or deductive reasoning, it will always end up with the same answer. “Ends of a worm to quarrel” is saying that the end of the explanations will meet again.
Freewrite: Mechanics Logic WLTC 7A
ReplyDelete1. According to Pirsig, the most imporanttn part of a mechanics work
is careful observation. This includes writing down of everything that
a mechanic does in a methodic and clear way.
Additionally, careful observation includes taking note of the methods,
times, styles of the process when dealing with mechanical challenges.
overall, careful observation allows one to
always have a way to overcome any type sittuation.
2. Pirsig defines inductive reasoning by using the example of a car
misfiring every time it goes over a bump. As he is carefully observing
the car misfires when it goes over a bump and not misfiring when it is
on flat ground, he can conclude that the bumps are making the car
misfire. He defines deductive reasoning as knowing the general facts
about a machine. By knowing that the horn is powered by electricity
that comes from the battery, then he can logically infer that if the
better is dead, the horn will not work.
3. The scientific method is a combination of deductive and inductive
reasoning. Depending on the information and facts already known and
particular experiemnet, then it will focus one of the two methods more
heavily then the other, yet with the other still included in the
experiment.
4. Alfred North Whitehead is stating that sometimes people view
deductive and inductive reasoning as two opposing methods, however
they are the same thing. They are for the
same purpose just go about in different manners.
Adalie Villalobos, Jamie McNair, Ronald Parker, Edwin Peabody
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English 5 11-12:15pm
May 3, 2012
Mechanics Logic
1. The most important part of the mechanics work is the physical labor.
2. Induction- Inductive inferences start with observations of the machine and arrive at general conclusions.
Deductive- They start with general knowledge and predict a specific observation.
3. The method of reasoning that the scientific method relies on is induction.
4. There is an obvious distinction between induction and deduction.
Lola Levi
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Saba Ghanem
Tiffanya Richardson
Professor Sabir
May 2,2012
The logic of reason
The most important component of Mechanics logic written by Robert Pirsig, is careful observations in order to ask a proper question, that lead to desired conclusions. Asking these questions will allow you to develop experiments, instead of wasting time with questions that take you further from the truth. Inductive reasoning refers to reasoning drawn from particular experiences to find the conclusion. The writer uses an example of a motorcyclist that goes over a series of bumps which causes his bike to misfire. These misfires lead the motorcyclist to draw the conclusion that there was some sort of electrical issue going on with his bike. An example of deductive reasoning is the motorcyclist knowing the fact that the horn on his bike is powered by electricity. He uses this fact to determine that is the horn does not work, then the electrical system is malfunctioning. Deduction starts with general knowledge to predict specific observations. The scientific method is also a form of deductive reasoning.
“There is a tradition of opposition between adherents of induction and deduction. In my view, it would be just as sensible for the two ends of a worm to quarrel.” (Alfred Whithead)
This quote is referring to two opposing forces that are closely related. Whithead is focusing on the fact that logicians like to make distinctions, despite the fact that reasoning may stem from similar sources.
Vincent Corral Jr
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Sabir
English 5
WLTC - 7A
3 May 2012
1. The most important part of the mechanics work is the physical labor.
2. Induction is defines as: reasoning from particular experiences to general truths. Deduction does the reverse; it starts with general knowledge an predicts a specific observation
3. He relies on scientific method with inductive reasoning.
4. The purpose Induction and Deduction is used to separate two ideas from one another.
Monsoon Pandey
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English 5
3 May 2012
Exercise 7A
1. The most important part of the mechanism work is careful
observation and precise thinking.
2. According to Pirsig, induction is reasoning from particular
experiences to general truth and deduction is starting from general
knowledge and predicts a specific observation.
3. The scientific method relies on inductive and deductive reasoning.
4. Alfred North Whitehead is trying to say that no matter how you
approach it (through deductive or inductive reasoning) you are
heading towards the same conclusion.
Shayne Keator
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English 5
3 May 2012
1. According to Pirsig, what is the most important part of the mechanic’s work?
Careful observation and precise thinking are the most import aspects
of the mechanic's work. This careful observation and precise
thinking is done through inductive and deductive reasoning.
2.How does Pirsig define induction and deduction?
Pirsig defines induction as "reasoning from particular experiences to
general truths." According to Pirsig, "deductive inferences do the
reverse" of inductive inferences. Pirsig states, "They start with
general knowledge and predict a specific observation."
3. Which method of reasoning--induction or deduction--does the
scientific method rely on?
The scientific method interweaves induction and deduction.
4. Return to the statement by mathematician and philosopher Alfred
North Whitehead (1861-1947), which begins this chapter, and explain its meaning.
What Alfred Whitehead is trying to say is that the distinctions that people find between induction and deduction are misleading and that induction and deduction are ultimately intended reach the same goal; to come to a rational conclusion about a situation or problem.
Lola Levi
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Eng. 5
Free write WLTC 7A
1) According to Pirsig the most important part mechanic’s work, is to make sure Nature hasn’t misled into thinking you know something you actually don’t.
2) Pirsig defines Induction as reasoning from a particular experience to the general truths, while Deduction is the general knowledge and prediction of a general observation.
3) The method of reasoning that scientific methods rely on is Deductive.
4) The meaning of the statement Alfred North Whitehead gives is, there is no need to argue with Inductive and Deductive because they will end up with the same conclusion.